Are Hard Drives Still Worth It?

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Jarvise
Jarvise 23 minutter siden
Chia miners enters the chat
Ho Lee Fuk
Ho Lee Fuk 38 minutter siden
I think the last time I had a HDD was in 2012 or 2013. 1 TB SSDs are cheap enough these days, so no excuse to use a HDD.
ReddoFreddo
ReddoFreddo 5 timer siden
Just lay down the extra cash and buy a 2TB SSD, you don't need more than that, and screwing around with multiple drives sucks.
Jeremy Andrews
Jeremy Andrews 9 timer siden
I wound up buying a 512GB Crucial m4 drive in 2012 for something like $509, and never really ran into problems over the course of 9 years. I used it pretty heavily and it looks it still has over 80% of its health left. I'm probably going to be able to get a couple more years out of it. What kinda worries me now is the way they're pushing QLC and TLC these days... I wonder if new SSDs will last as long as mine did?
Solomon Parker
Solomon Parker Dag siden
I store video files on external HDDs, they're cheap. Internally, I use two NVMEs and sometimes I have a SATA SSD installed (been shuffling them off to the children's computers lately). When I a editing, I transfer the files internally. I'm not a gamer, so not running a massive rig like you all. I like mid to upper midrange gaming laptops. They do what I need and remain capable for a long time. I'm always hoping someone will make really big SATA SSDs for cheap.
Creepy :
Creepy : Dag siden
Still waiting for that chocolate video tbh
Roeboe89
Roeboe89 Dag siden
Better question: is Hard Exercise still worth it? Answer: yes.
Big Nose
Big Nose Dag siden
I only store small/old games on my hdd whilst my 50gb+ games are placed on an SSD.
Nicomancer
Nicomancer 2 dager siden
Watching this on the last days before the total failure of my HDD. I have got to replace this one soon.
Hellscream Games
Hellscream Games 2 dager siden
Good video.
Dewgy Houser M.D.
Dewgy Houser M.D. 2 dager siden
why are you making that face in the thumbnail?
Henrik Kragh
Henrik Kragh 2 dager siden
I feel like there should have been just a little hint at how SSDs will lose data over time (Years), if they are not connected to any power. Or am I missing something? Has things changed in that area lately? Anyways, if you need to store stuff for a long time, having it on a disconnected drive (SSD or Disk) is a bad idea anyways, so I understand why it is really not that important to know. But it SHOULD be known at least :)
percussion 44
percussion 44 2 dager siden
I've had 3 ssd failures in the last 6 years. The same hdd's are still in service.
emwungarand
emwungarand 2 dager siden
Are hard drives still worth it? *laughs in Chia*
Tx Drive
Tx Drive 2 dager siden
boring fat guy with not funny jokes - NOPE
Ayush Mathur
Ayush Mathur 2 dager siden
ohhh the stutter. It wasn't me.
Paul Hester
Paul Hester 3 dager siden
for years when i was younger, i was either using the pc my parents had bought for the house (a gateway 2000 pre-00s' and a dell Inspiron 550 around 06-07 back when dual-core was all the craze! my first experience of a self build was a pc my brother put together back in the early 2000s' AMD Athlon 1300 xp. the idea of multiple hard drives let alone solid-state didn't even occur to me. i put together my first self build in 2015 , originally I did the whole small ssd big hard drive thing then I upgraded to a crucial 1tb 2.5". fast forward to now and I'm running a 2tb Intel 660P with an external 2tb WD for backup to be honest, i don't think I'll ever want to go back.
Tournel Henry
Tournel Henry 3 dager siden
2TB HDD: $100 1TB SSD: $130 Say what you want, I'm still poor. So, my choice is pre-determined
Dale Herman
Dale Herman 3 dager siden
I bought a 4TB WD Blue(CMR) for $80 a few months ago. I'm very happy with it for bulk storage.
M C
M C 3 dager siden
I've got a 1TB NVMe SSD and a 1TB HDD. Best of both worlds!
Paul Michael
Paul Michael 3 dager siden
You should of dropped that HDD, that hard, while you was driving.
coolerkater1991
coolerkater1991 3 dager siden
huuuuh? "SSDs last longer" i always heard that HDDs are better for storing your data. Did something change?
Brian Sharp
Brian Sharp 3 dager siden
50% sponsor links. Excessive, and detracted from the content so much, it ruined the video :( You've got overheads, but imo, you are no longer making sponsored informative entertainment, instead, the info and entertainment seem to be there just as a vehicle for the advertisement.
Human Being
Human Being 3 dager siden
I gots 8 x 8tb wd red need DISK splines man super RAID TERRABYTES OF TERROR
Franklyn Grullon
Franklyn Grullon 3 dager siden
Anthony’s so smooth with his segue into a sponsor, unlike Linus!
Alex Hostetter
Alex Hostetter 4 dager siden
Right now for 1tb, the prices are double. But once you get into the 4gb or higher, prices for ssd's skyrocket. And I just don't have like 6 sata ports on my motherboard for multiple ssd's Ive had the same backup 1tb hard drive I bought a decade ago, spinning in my computer all these years. And it hasn't broken. As far as I know, no ssd purchased 10 years ago, was as cheap, or would last. I don't get this idea that ssd's have become as good on all points. It hasn't. Hard drives are an easy way to save chunks of cash, especially since you probably have a good one sitting around or a friend does.
Yit Han Ong
Yit Han Ong 4 dager siden
The 2x price rule works for lower capacity builds, SSDs are typically much more expensive as you rack up the Tbs...
Celeste Gauthier
Celeste Gauthier 4 dager siden
But you can't degauss an SSD... ;)
Ray Peckham
Ray Peckham 4 dager siden
3:40 with every hand gesture I cringe, even with parked heads, I fear data loss is immenent with a HD. 4:55 nice stutter edit
Jamie Shows
Jamie Shows 4 dager siden
Too many God damn ads for this dumb shit
AesculapiusPiranha
AesculapiusPiranha 4 dager siden
Short answer: Yes Long answer: Yes
Keith2800
Keith2800 4 dager siden
NVME SSD for system partition and a standard SSD for installed games. Regular HDD for storage of movies, music and misalliance files and all will be good. Don’t buy an NVME for storage, it’s a ridiculous waste of money.
Mr. Mixx
Mr. Mixx 4 dager siden
It depends which. I managed to buy a couple of shitty S*****e 2.5" drives. They are really bad.
ItsMinarmy
ItsMinarmy 5 dager siden
The guy seems to get fatter
Michael Moy
Michael Moy 5 dager siden
When I was a kid, we had punched cards, cassette tapes, and paper tape for offline storage. I have a PC build from 2020 with 5 TB SSD. I do have HDDs but they are for backup.
Tmanstomp100
Tmanstomp100 5 dager siden
Lol that thumbnail tho
Scott
Scott 5 dager siden
My newest build: 2TB SSD, 14 TB HD.
Pocket Rave
Pocket Rave 5 dager siden
SSD for games and Programmes, HDD for storage . Still use HDD for Plex and no need to change
Sergiuss555
Sergiuss555 6 dager siden
body positive Linus from body positive Canada
Joe Callander
Joe Callander 6 dager siden
It's so good to see Anthony grow in confidence and ability in front of camera. He's my fave member of the team these days. Knowledgable, eloquent, funny, and genuine. Keep up the awesome work and more Anthony content please!!!
Oldworlder451
Oldworlder451 6 dager siden
If Anthony's was in shape, he would look like Leonardo Dicaprio.
Christian Martinez
Christian Martinez 6 dager siden
i love this guy
alex
alex 7 dager siden
I love that Anthony constantly gets the praise he deserves to this day
Milky
Milky 7 dager siden
My setup is M.2 for OS, SSD for games and files, and HDD for shit like COD. Works out great.
Alman1234
Alman1234 7 dager siden
"Twice as expensive" this is a lie through omission...a 4TB SSD can't be had for less than $400 while a 4TB HDD can regularly be had for well under $100, pricing is still the Achilles heel of the SSD and the worst of it reaches a much steeper incline on the upper end of capacity than HDDs do. The 18TB HDD from WD is approximately $250 cheaper than the 4TB NVMe from Sabrent, and the 8TB NVMe is worth 3 18TB HDDs...
Schreibtiscification
Schreibtiscification 7 dager siden
Mister spinner made me giggle
Ramgladore
Ramgladore 7 dager siden
I bought a SSD years ago when they were more expensive. After a year of using it, it clunked out on me. I imagine how much it would have sucked if my project files were on it. I think HDDs are safer for file retention. I have my old PC from 20 years ago and the HDD still works just fine. I still have a SSD for booting my PC and programs I use the most but I keep my files on a disk.
Billy Gilbert
Billy Gilbert 7 dager siden
Great video champ, love the video stutters. I'm an old school builder just jumping back in and i..shocked at the amount of 5400 drives out there. What a waste. When I built my last PC Raptors were just released and what a difference. Now with ssd's I don't understand why anyone would do a HDD except for NAS and even then. If you only need 2tb total storage just do ssd.
Gene King
Gene King 8 dager siden
idk mate i like my spinny bits
SYBR DARC
SYBR DARC 8 dager siden
I have over 24TB spread across 7 drives lol
Jay Mcfarlane
Jay Mcfarlane 8 dager siden
I still buy the larger HDD's for mass storage. It's hard to beat 10-16 TB of storage for only a few hundred Canadian peso's. That said almost all my games (plus boot) are on an SSD, but anything that doesn't need the blazing fast speed (and its not being transported all over) is on the HDD (video files, documents, etc)
MCES LEX
MCES LEX 8 dager siden
Unlimited games on HDD one or two in a SSD 😂
Gaming Videos
Gaming Videos 8 dager siden
I think they just trying to help push products.
Ronny Cook
Ronny Cook 8 dager siden
In summary, "use the right tool for the job." The only real job left for spindles is bulk storage, where speed isn't much of an issue - for example, backups, or your entirely legitimate movie library. But even then they should be RAIDed.
Xemnas TM
Xemnas TM 8 dager siden
My system uses a 250GB ssd for my boot drive and a 5 TB WD Black HDD 😐
Bearded One1210
Bearded One1210 8 dager siden
I have a 2tb for all my gaming and my SSD for booting and some games... The only game I have load time issues with is killing floor 2... Not wow, now eso or any other mmo which is a lot of what I play. I'm pretty good lol, worth the money I save
StaySic4Ever
StaySic4Ever 8 dager siden
For at least some time, data is just getting much larger so SSDs will need to get cheaper faster.
Harry Hasselhoff
Harry Hasselhoff 8 dager siden
Ssd and hdd combo is still king. I'm not paying 500$++ to replace ONE of my 2tb drives.
Dope Boss Gamerz
Dope Boss Gamerz 9 dager siden
I cant afford games so I dont need much storage
Lawrence D’Oliveiro
Lawrence D’Oliveiro 9 dager siden
1:15 Only if you use an OS that restricts you to 26 drive letters ...
Lawrence D’Oliveiro
Lawrence D’Oliveiro 9 dager siden
0:16 And what happened to those “hybrid” drives, with flash acting as some kind of nonvolatile cache in combination with a regular magnetic drive? Yeah, dumb idea.
YTA2
YTA2 9 dager siden
Please more Anthony! Much more Anthony! He is charismatic af!
PerspectivE
PerspectivE 9 dager siden
I love this guy.I don't watch a whole lot of LTT so idk his name but this guy. he's a cool guy.
v
v 9 dager siden
m.2 internal in a external case 😀
Danielmires
Danielmires 10 dager siden
I prefer this new host! His voice is better then Linus.
Nicholas Baum
Nicholas Baum 10 dager siden
Less ironic segue today.....
Redmag706
Redmag706 10 dager siden
I think HDDs are good mass storage for long term less used stuff, and SSDs are good for quicker needs.
Tech TV usa
Tech TV usa 10 dager siden
This guy gave a read and write speed of 100-120 MBPS. Hard drives could reach those speeds over ten years ago. Several years ago hard drives could reach speeds of over 200 MBPS. This guy forget to mention SATA hard drive RAID systems can give you fasts speeds and a lot of storage. Video files like 4K Pro Res or 4K BRAW require a lot of storage space and a lot of throughput. How much would an 80 GB SSD system cost compared to an 80 GB hard drive RIAD setup? The video link below demonstrates what a RAID system can do. nopost.info/throw/zcy1bJ7bypd6aZo/video
Lesley Schultze
Lesley Schultze 10 dager siden
IF you have an old spinner in the draw, then yes its a viable option - we ain't buying them unless they are 2TB or bigger guys, the cost to performance benefit is just not there on anything less.
kmikl
kmikl 10 dager siden
New comment on an older video: SMR is only an issue if you're writing to a drive often. If you're reading a lot though (like in a lot of consumer NAS applications), there's no real issue. If you have other write technologies, great... SMR is cheaper by and large. That said, it's a dick move to use it and not tell people about it.
IAT1964
IAT1964 10 dager siden
When I was a kid, PC did not exist! Never mind ssd's
Emmet Yeencoon
Emmet Yeencoon 10 dager siden
There is some great subtle editing going on here
یا علی یا علی مولا
یا علی یا علی مولا 10 dager siden
Well I use a Hybrid drive, so I can't really relate on my main computer, but can relate on my laptop with a 1TB HDD(6900 RPM)
Sorwis
Sorwis 11 dager siden
For saving and viewing any high quality video such as UHD Blu-rays the standard HDDs is really the most sensible way to store them. I just purchased two 3,5" 7200 rpm 14 TB drives for 220€ each to use as simple media storage. There's no need for faster speeds for simply accessing the media and there's nothing which comes close in price per storage space. So, as always, it depends whatever you want your computer to be able to do.
Erika Dalí
Erika Dalí 11 dager siden
"When I was a kid, SSDs barely existed." How old is this dude? He looks 40. Are SSDs that old?
bloody hell
bloody hell 11 dager siden
ssd is invented on 1991
Kevin Lawson
Kevin Lawson 11 dager siden
I have a 6TB 7200rpm Toshiba HDD that has a 256mb cache and I partitioned it into two , so now it's two 3TB drives and I'm telling you it's one of the most impressive HDs I've ever owned , like most drives you get from Seagate or WD your getting a 64mb cache even in the high end drives that claims it's for gaming and it's so fast , lol yeah 5400rpms with 64mb cache is not fast , so if want a crazy fast large drive for your games or just a primary drive that can keep up with whatever you throw at , well the Toshiba X300 6TB is the way to go .
M L
M L 11 dager siden
I still prefer HDs for long term storage. For the price, it still makes sense.
John Doe
John Doe 11 dager siden
MOAR ANTHONY. That is all. Thank you
Zeus Himself
Zeus Himself 12 dager siden
Pro tip: in most multiplayer games everyone waits on the last person to load in before starting. Personally I run single player games ssd and multiplayer hdd
Jack Burton
Jack Burton 12 dager siden
Still, an 8 or 10 gb WD Gold HDD is worth it to store all your Steam games, while the NVMe drive/s for OS and games that your currently playing.
0 0
0 0 12 dager siden
Yes they are if you live outside of first world bubble and cant casually walk to supermarket and buy 200$ item.
Sanchesco
Sanchesco 12 dager siden
Mmm im watching a commercial...
Hsiss
Hsiss 12 dager siden
Is it true that SSD lose it's data in a year without power? HDD has no such problem
Josh Copeland
Josh Copeland 12 dager siden
What games have you and Linus been playing lately?
ka44604
ka44604 12 dager siden
What you fail to mention is yes you can get SSD or even NVME down to $100 a TB, but when you start looking at big HHD's you are looking at $20 to $25 a TB, which when you have a collection of 300+ movies even at 1080p starts to matter
can you not
can you not 12 dager siden
I love his voice.
David Cazes
David Cazes 13 dager siden
Honestly I transferred most of my game to a HDD because I was running out of space and I noticed a small difference in loading time but nothing excessive.
Jim Browning
Jim Browning 13 dager siden
Too many advertisements for a 7 minute video.
url8
url8 13 dager siden
I mean, I imagine hard drives will still be around, they will just become a niche product for people who want to build early-mid 2000s PeeCees or upgrade hard drives on older 6th or 7th gen consoles. There will still be a market for mechanical hard drives, just a much smaller one to appeal to 6th-7th gen gamers.
Ben Richards
Ben Richards 13 dager siden
*pats NAS* I still love you and think you're worth it.
Dj Auqland
Dj Auqland 13 dager siden
I olny have an 4TB external Hard Drive from WD RED
Zaxyss
Zaxyss 13 dager siden
heh I have 3 hdd in pc all powered with 1tb ssd caching so I don't loosing speed:D
Planet Conker
Planet Conker 13 dager siden
The only thing I find with an SSD vs a 3.5" HDD when using the drives as external storage backups is that data tends to go corrupt more easily on an SSD compared to the HDD. I've been using the same 1tb HDD drive for around a decade and its still fine and my data's still intact (hopefully havnt jinxed myself), however since owning the HDD I've had 3 SDD's that have corrupt my data and died on me. I've also had a dell inspiring duo 1090 which I put a Samsung evo sata SSD into and everything went corrupt on that as well including the OS. Hey maybe I'm just unlucky, but for me for backing up, I will aways use a 3.5" HDD over an SSD.
Victor Lindvall
Victor Lindvall 14 dager siden
So then should all of my drives except long term storage be SSD's?
thelazyworker sandwich
thelazyworker sandwich 14 dager siden
If next-gen consoles are using SSD then I wouldn't expect devs to bother optimizing for hard drives in the future.
Axey5
Axey5 14 dager siden
you guys on fuckery...
Drizzt
Drizzt 14 dager siden
Ads are getting sooooo smooth these days.
Dylan Richards
Dylan Richards 14 dager siden
When I can get a 4 TiB SSD for £130, then it'll be time to ditch them. But until then, I'll stick with my WD Red Pro.
Bernard Thongvanh
Bernard Thongvanh 14 dager siden
When I was in school I was told that flash memory had to be re-actualized or it would simply evaporate (electrical charge is lost over time), so you can't store your old tv-shows in a box for years with SSDs, is this still true? this was 15 years ago.
Bernard Thongvanh
Bernard Thongvanh 13 dager siden
@Elemkay heh, I should replug some old usb drive then.
Elemkay
Elemkay 14 dager siden
That's very much true. It is a function of how the solid state cells work - so unless they invent a new kind of solid state drive, this will always be true. Which I would have expected Anthony to pick up on to be fair!
CompuDude-KMan
CompuDude-KMan 14 dager siden
What's even the point of this video? SSD for your system drive all day long. If your data, software, OS, etc fits in 2tb or under, that's all you need. Full stop. But for those of us with more extensive data needs, until they make price-comparable SSDs that hold my video collection that is pushing the limits of the dual 8tb spinners I have it on now (mirrored, two 8tb drives, is still way mo cheaper than trying to do that on SSD), it's going to be a looong time before I stop buying spinning hard drives. Not to mention additional spinners for full local backups of my various home computers.
CompuDude-KMan
CompuDude-KMan 13 dager siden
@Elemkay Yup. It got passing mention "we used to recommend this" but then they implied that the only thing they were good for is installing lesser-used games on if you don't mind slow loading times, but then higher settings will get screwed up so don't bother. Turns out, some people use computers for things other than installing games. Shocking concept, I know.
Elemkay
Elemkay 14 dager siden
Can't believe they failed to address the fact that an SSD AND a HDD makes the most sense for almost everyone
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